Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:09:01 -0400

From: Kenny Young <ufo@fuse.net>

To: presidentialufo@presidency.com,

Subject: CONTACTED BEVERLY GLEASON (McKITTRICK)

INTERVIEW with BEVERLY GLEASON

This morning I spoke by telephone with Beverly Gleason

McKittrick, an ex-wife of the late comedian Jackie Gleason. I

explained to her that I was interested in the progress of her

book and if she could talk about Jackie Gleason's claim of

seeing alien bodies at Homestead Air Force Base in Florida.

She said that the book never came out as she had 'stopped

writing' of it. She said she was 'glad to get out of it' as

Jackie Gleason did not seem pleased with her quoting him on the

aliens in Florida. She said that there was not much additional

to tell as the whole story regarding Jackie Gleason and the

aliens, as far as she knew, had already been printed anyway.

"Esquire Magazine interviewed me after our separation," she

said, "and I talked about how Jackie told me about seeing dead

aliens in Florida. I think it was sometime in '74 when this

happened. When I said that it was because he told me."

"After the interview was published, Jackie was upset about the

story being public. He called and said he didn't appreciate me

giving the interview, and that's when I started to wonder if the

story was 'iffy.'

"The reason I became 'iffy' about it is because I wondered if it

was really true, I mean... I believed it the whole time. I

bought the story hook, line and sinker. But if it was true, then

why did he get so upset about it?"

Beverly went on to explain how Jackie came to tell her of his

experience.

"Jackie had been out very late one night I did not know who he

was with," She said. "He told me where he was that same evening,

he said he had been in South Florida with President Nixon to see

some dead aliens there and I believed him, he was very

convincing.

"He and Nixon were in contact quite a bit and I'm not sure how

that was arranged, but it seems that their meetings were set up

by an associate of Nixon's. After he got back, he was very

pleased he had an opportunity to see the dead little men in

cases, he explained to me what they looked like and he was still

talking about it the next day."

Beverly explained that during her interview with Esquire

Magazine, she made the statement about Gleason's claim to see

dead aliens and afterward things between her and Jackie turned

sour.

"We were on the verge of divorce, but everything was okay until

it came out in Esquire," she said.

She informed that Gleason never did deny the story.

Regarding her announced intention to write a book, Beverly again

said that she abandoned the project due in large part to

Gleason's objection to her comments about him seeing the aliens.

"I just made that one statement about the UFOs and it appeared

in Esquire and I guess a few other places and he didn't like

that and I thought, I just can't go through with this. Let him

live his life. So I never wrote the book."

I thanked Beverly for talking with me and asked if it would be

okay for me to call her back later if I had more questions, she

agreed. That concluded our conversation.

Special thanks to Donnie Blessing, Grant Cameron and David

Rudiak for their help in providing contact information for

Beverly Gleason McKittrick.

Filed,

JULY 9, 2003

KENNY YOUNG

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	President Nixon joins Jackie Gleason on the 18th green of Gleason's golfcourse outside Miami Florida in February 1973. This was not the golf encounter Mrs. Gleason was referring to but was in the same time frame.

August 6, 2003 Follow-up

From: Kenny Young <ufo@fuse.net>
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 06:10:09 -0400
Fwd Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 21:16:05 -0400
Subject: Follow-up With Beverly Gleason


This afternoon I placed a second call to Beverly Gleason at her
home in Easton, Maryland. We spoke for about 15-minutes and I
asked if she could recall, for certain, if Esquire Magazine was
the first to print her story about Richard Nixon showing
comedian Jackie Gleason, her late husband, alien bodies after a
golf game while at Homestead Air Force Base in Florida.

Beverly said that she is certain that it was Esquire Magazine
that first printed the story, and went on to describe how the
article was the front page cover story of Esquire, carrying a
picture of Jackie and some text regarding UFOs. She also said
that the reporter who did the story still works there, and she
could only recall his first name perhaps being "Ben."

She said that in the years after the Esquire report, other
publications picked up the story - some of them she thought,
directly from Esquire.

Going back to the Gleason/Nixon meetings for golf in Florida,
she couldn't remember any specific date they met but said that
her relationship with Jackie Gleason was good during that time
frame. She said that she had even met with President Nixon
herself, meeting him near a pool and having a drink with him.

She said that later, at the time of the Esquire article, her
relationship with Jackie was not good.

"I'll be honest with you, about the time the article appeared
Jack and I were breaking up," she said. "And when he saw the
Esquire article that just finished everything."

I asked her about the reports she had planned to write a book
and whether or not she ever prepared a manuscript. She said that
she did not have any written manuscript at any time and nothing
otherwise prepared. There is nothing she had ever prepared in
writing, she said, to document this first-hand.

"At the time Jack came home after his meeting with The
President, he was so giddy and excited about seeing these little
men," she said, "but in the years afterward I began to ask
myself if any of this could really be true or if he was just
telling me that... perhaps having been 'out' with someone?"

I asked her if she could recall any of his words, a more
complete description of the 'little men' or any information such
as where they came from or crashed, and Beverly laughed and
reminded me of how many years ago this was. She then answered by
saying: "you would be best off to find that Esquire article,
that probably contains my closest recollection of anything he
said."

I told Beverly that in addition to doing research, I also was
involved in writing and producing television documentaries. I
asked her if she would feel comfortable going 'on camera' with
this story and said that it would be tremendous to preserve her
comments and experience on videotape. She said that she was not
interested in going on television and thought the story
concerning the 'little men' should be authenticated first. I
said that the only real 'authentication' would come if the
government announced having the bodies and she said "I guess
you're right, but I guess I just don't want to go on camera with
this."

I thanked her for talking with me and she again suggested I find
the Esquire magazine article.

Filed,
AUGUST 6, 2003

Kenny Young